obama care was built on the backs of romney care. if he can say something about the fiscal cliff, the president can gain some bipartisan credibility. it's also the right thing to do. the real tradition of this is started in 1960 with kennedy meeting nixon in florida, and since then it's pretty much pro forma. what is 50-50 is whether a friendship gets developed out of this kind of lunch. >> this is the kind of thing that we take for granted in the united states. you really have to think about it, when there is no peaceful transition. >> well, you know, i recently wrote about the kennedy assassination, and it's amazing. here our president was killed in dallas in 1963, and in many countries people would go riot in the streets, but in america lyndon johnson was sworn in, and it's a smooth transition of power. look at gore verse bush in 2000. went all the way to the supreme court, but there they were breaking bread together, vice president gore and then incoming president bush. it is what -- what we're seeing today the healthy side of ou